Thursday, 22 August 2013


This article was prompted by the Jonny K. case, which attracted a lot of attention in Germany. It involved five Turks attacking someone for no reason, and then attacking Jonny K. when he tried to intervene. He suffered severe injuries then died a few days later. Last week the perps were sentenced to just a few years in prison.

The video above (from Deutsche Welle) gives background information on the incident, although, being the German BBC, it, of course, fails to mention the ethnic angle.

The ethnic angle was discussed in this article in Focus. At first I thought the author was being ironic, contemptuously mocking the shibboleths of the politically correct by exaggerating them for comic effect. Then I realised he was actually being completely serious.

The article is called "Why we are responsible for criminal immigrants".

Some youths with an immigrant background are twice as violent as youths from Germany. A closer look at the criminal statistics bring some surprising insights, however - and shows who could solve the problem.

The Alexanderplatz attackers will now have to spend years behind bars. Out of the blue they put the boot into the 20-year-old Jonny K. on 14 October 2012. He died shortly afterwards from brain haemmorhages. The verdict came last Thursday: four and a half years for the main perpetrator Onur U. Afterwards Germany engaged in a discussion again: do youths of immigrant origin actually engage in violence more often than Germans of the same age?

The answer is: yes and no. Researchers also speak of a finding that is also very clear: if specific groups engage in violence more often, the fault for this also belongs to German society itself. "The decisive thing is social integration," says Christian Pfeiffer, Director of the Criminological Institute of Lower Saxony. Although immigrants have an obligation too, "Our welcoming culture is underdeveloped."

The discussion is as old as it is controversial and highly charged. Every opinion, every figure, every estimate on the topic can become political - or be abused by neo-Nazis for their brown goals. For that reason researchers point at the responsibility of the Germans. "The better integration works in the schools, the lower the violence," says Pfeiffer. When a correct comparison is made, meaning youths with and with an immigrant background, who have similar life and educational tracks, the result is clear: "Then their violent behaviour is completely identical with Germans."

In other words: if society succeeds better in the integration of youths with an immigrant background, the rate of violence falls. "Some immigrants are more violent than Germans," says the Munich criminologist Heinz Schöch. "That has a simple explanation: when they learn at home that problems are solved with their fists, this transfers to the youth." According to the KFN, the same applies when there are lots of violent friends around.

Everyone has prejudices

In addition there is no homogeneous group of immigrants. This overarching term covers lots of distinct nationalities. And for that reason the sweeping judgement that youth with an immigrant background are more often criminal than Germans is wrong. There are no official figures. Researchers must therefore rely on background studies. The conclusion of these KFN studies: there are groups in which the rate of violence is higher than those of German origin - and there are groups in which it is lower. The general tendency is as follows: as education increases, the rate of violence declines. And that is something that society can influence. As can politicians, by putting more money into education.

One example: the institute polled around 45,000 youths. Currently the study is being repeated with around 10,000 participants. One result from 2008: if a youth of immigrant origin has a German in his circle of friends, the rate of violence declines. Another result: Turks want to have Germans as neighbours, but don't under any circumstances want to live next to someone of the Jewish faith. Germans in turn want Swedes as neighbours, but reject Turks. "Muslim groups have it especially difficult because the rejection is especially high," concludes Pfeiffer. Everyone has their own prejudices: "But with Turks it is especially clear how disappointed they are."
Source: Focus

A companion article gives the following figures for immigrant crime in Germany.

Foreign suspects are 29.2% of the total in Bavaria and 24% in Germany, a gross overrepresentation. But, of course, Germans must somehow be to blame for this.








3 comments:

Anonymous said...

welcoming culture under developed... when u think u heard them al... where do they get this bullshit?

ne_pas_subir said...

"The discussion is as old as it is controversial and highly charged. Every opinion, every figure, every estimate on the topic can become political - or be abused by neo-Nazis for their brown goals. For that reason researchers point at the responsibility of the Germans."

This is the most shocking part of this dreadful article. The "researchers" and the same-minded journalist are openly admitting that they blame Germans not because of sociological truth, but because if they didn't it could lead Germans to fight against their oppression. Better a Germany oppressed, better a Germany drowned in lies than taking any chance of an unprobable nazi comeback. Even in the most propagandist outlets, it is not so often that we see pure genocidal ideology laid bare like this.

Unknown said...

In the U.S. we would shoot the perpetrators

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