Tuesday, 9 July 2013

According to Cameron, Ramadan demonstrates "the true spirit of Islam". Given that crime figures involving Muslims tend to go through the roof during this month, that may well be true. Cameron also boasts of how the British government now spends 0.7% of its GDP on foreign aid, much of which is distributed through "Muslim organisations", he says. He praises the fact that Muslims offer charity to other Muslims around the world. It doesn't occur to him that a sense of charity so narrowly directed, at an in-group rather than at humanity generally, has something wrong with it.


Anonymous said...

Islamic Law forbids Moslems from giving Zakat ('charity' or 'alms' to a non-Moslem as stated in the 'Umdat al-Salik, Islamic Manual certified by Al-Azhar University, Cairo as a correct representation of Islamic Law for orthodox Sunni Moslems (the Sunnis comprise 80-85% of worldwide Moslem population):

In specifying the uses to which Zakat is to be put:

"H8.24 It is not permissible to give Zakat to a non-Muslim, or to someone whom one is obliged to support (def. M12.1), such as a wife or family member."

However, one of the eight uses for which Zakat is intended is Da'wa (proselytisation) which is also meant for 'reconciling' non-Moslems to Islam:

"Those to be reconciled include:
-1- the chief personages of a people (O: with weak Islamic intentions) whose Islam may be expected to improve or whose peers may be expected to enter Islam;

-2- or the heads of a people who collect Zakat for us from Muslims living near them who refuse to pay it, or who fight an enemy for us at considerable expense and trouble to themselves"

And also amongst the eight uses for which Zakat is intended:

"fighting in the Cause of Allah" (JIHAD, "warfare to establish the rellgion").

In summary, Moslem 'charity' helps to fund Jihad against all non-Moslems, in order to force them to 'islam' ('submission' in Arabic); it is also used to bribe non-Moslem leaders of countries whose people are not yet in 'islam' but who are targetted for it; it also gives financial 'largesse' to non-Moslem leaders who use their own peoples and armies to wage wars for Moslems and Islamic interests. Also, any foreign aid by a Western country to a Moslem one will be regarded as coming under the rules for use of Zakat ('charity') and can, will, and has in the past, been used to fund Jihad (several years ago, Britain gave Pakistan millions in aid which the Pakis partly used to fund a plan to have explosives on a plane from Britain to the US, either with the intention of exploding it in mid-Atlantic or waiting until it was over the US for maximum devastation; the plan was foiled before take-off).

Anonymous said...

fucking idiot...

Anonymous said...

Indeed you are a true hater of humanity. Its unfortunate that you posses so much hatred in your heart and have gone through despicable usage of irrelevant misinterpretations to justify your hatred.

Charity is aimed at the poor, it is also practiced in Judaism to be used within their own religious community with strict quality control. Hence very few Jewish people lives bellow poverty line because of their successful strict quality control on passing on the charity within their own community.That method is also a part of their faith. Among the three Abrahamic religions( Judaism, Christianity and Islam) it is most promoted in Christianity to use wealth in exchange of conversion to Christianity. This is still a well practiced method by several missionaries all around the world.

Islam is the religion and a social ideology, a system, a way of life. Zakat is one of the five pillars of its entire belief system. It is regarded as a practical social taxation method, which entirely eliminated poverty in a region during a specific period. This taxation method is aimed to improve the community, society and humanity. It appears that you have made your day job to research, identify and misinterpret Islamic messages by any form or shape. There is actually no difference between you and Al-Qaida as both of you use the negative misinterpretation and political agenda to justify your vindictive method of extremism and hatred. Both of you love looking at the dark side of life and point at adverse exceptions as examples. Surely Your language identifies you as someone of a right wing mindset. The world rejected your view in 1945. Investigate the figures of the amount that US or UK gives as aids to your so called Muslim countries and you'll find how less of a proportion of the whole Zakat it is.Then again you probably don't want to.FYI its so less, that it does not fall in to negligible. How do you possibly conclude that "fighting/warfare" is the cause of a God, of any religion!do you think any kind of religion is likely to have that kind of ideology?!(again your similarity with the terrorists). A Muslim is defined as a person who is submitted to almighty God.You know very well that submission in this context means submitting to Him. The application of Zakat in your 1 and 2 only justifies its effect as an ultimate social system.If not then noble charities such as "Help for Heroes" are also questionable.
This level of hatred and vindictive attitude is beyond appalling.May God have mercy opens your eyes to the real truth not the truth as you see it.There should be nothing as "Islam versus Europe" as there as absolutely no reason for these two to be put against.
May the peace comes to you one day....Amen

Anonymous said...

To Anonymous @12:38: If you believe you have grounds to object to Islamic law as it is stated in the above-quoted law manual (which is available in a joint Arabic-English translation, as Officially Certified by al-Azhar University, the foremost in the Islamic Sunni community), then I suggest you contact them directly: Fath Allah Ya Sin Jazar, General Director of Research, Writing and Translation, al-Azhar Islamic Research Academy, Cairo, Egypt.

Indeed, Zakat is one of the Five Pillars of Islam and it underlines quite well, therefore, that Islam has a highly visible and active political nature, including the funding of warfare to establish its system and is, therefore, also of a seditious nature.

Koran 9:60 lists the recipients and uses of Zakat as:
The poor;
Those who collect Zakat;
To attract the hearts of those who have been inclined (towards Islam); this is Da'wa;
To free those in captivity;
For those in debt;
For "Allah's Cause" (fighting in the Cause of Allah, holy battle, Jihad, for the Mujahidun;
For the wayfarer.

In the above-quoted 'Umdat al-Salik, in the section dealing with Zakat and listing the recipients and uses of Zakat, the following is stated:-

"H8.17 'Those Fighting for Allah'. This category is those fighting for Allah, meaning people engaged in Islamic military operations for whom no money has been allotted in the army roster (O: but who are volunteers for Jihad without remuneration). They are given enough to suffice them for the operation, even if affluent; of weapons, mounts, clothing and expenses (O: for the duration of the journey, round trip, and the time they spend there, even if prolonged. Though nothing has been mentioned here of the expense involved in supporting such people's families during this period, it seems clear that they should also be given it)."

"Book O: Justice, Chapter 09.0: JIHAD
"O: Jihad means to war against non-Muslims, and is etymologically derived from the word 'mujahada' signifying warfare to establish the religion ...
The scriptural basis for Jihad, prior to scholarly consensus (defb-7) is such Koranic verses as:
1. "Fighting is prescribed for you" (Koran 2:216);
2. "Slay them wherever you find them" (Koran 4:89);
3. "Fight the idolators utterly (Koran 9:36)
and such Hadiths as the ones related by Bukhari and Muslim that the Prophet said."

Zakat, in relation to the poor in Islamic countries, has never eliminated poverty as is attested by the billions paid in aid by Western countries.

Anonymous said...

As to your comment to me, "How do you possibly conclude that "fighting/warfare" is the cause of a God, of any religion! Do you think any kind of religion is likely to have that kind of "ideology"?", you are either a Moslem hoping that no one on this site understands the Islamic tenets of Taqiyya and Kitman (Koran-mandated tactics of deceit and withholding of full facts), or you are very poorly informed about Islam.

"I have been ordered by Allah to fight and kill all mankind until they say 'No God except Allah and Muhammed is the Prophet of Allah." (quoted in the Hadiths of both Bukhari and Muslim which, along with the Koran and Sira, comprise Islam's central texts.)

If what I have quoted, from key texts, does genuinely surprise you, then I encourage you to continue to look in on this site from time to time. "The Truth shall make you free."

Anonymous said...

@Anonymous 14:410.
Since you obviously come from Christian faith. Go read the Old testament as well as Torah, and do not come back with "turn the other cheek" rubbish.
You are quoting phrases from sentences and taking nothing from the meaning of original essence, and even they are not specific.
Now I completely agree with Anonymous 19:55.
You are also a pathetic excuse of reasonable mind.

May the Almighty opens your inner eyes. May the peace come to you one day....Amen
from Anonymous 12:38.

Anonymous said...

As a former member of HM Armed Forces I'm utterly disgusted to see this, my Prime Minister sucking up to the Muslim filth who have destroyed my country!

Cameron you are an imbecile if you believe Islam is peaceful. Islam is the total opposite! Wherever Islam treads, death and destruction soon follows.

I look forward to the day you leave 10 Downing Street for ever. You are a weak, spineless excuse of a man and the sooner we get a strong leader the better.

Anonymous said...

The true essence of islam? During Ramadan the pigs only vast during the day as soon as the sun goes down they can eat whatever the fuck they want. It's hypocrite and they know it. If they want to truly vast and show compassion to their fellow pig they shouldn't eat for about two weeks, day and night, only drink water, more than manageable and that could be admired maybe, but their muslims so that will never happen. Oh and most pigs don't really vast at all whentheir family ain't looking they will eat per definition.

Anonymous said...

Since when have muslims donated to charity? Doesn't the Koran forbid it? Muslims and Christians are different idiot Cameron!

Anonymous said...

When Cameron and the other MP's over here pull their heads out of the Muslim's arse cracks, they will only then and too late realise that because they don't use toilet tissue, their faces will be covered in faeces.

Anonymous said...

Our Prime Minister is a vile Muslim arse licking piece of shit. Maybe hes too frightened to offend these buggers, but if he just dropped this law that stops us "offending" Islam, we would all stand up and tackle it together. He could go and hide till his people sorted them out.

anna said...

have a nice posting of islamic messages

Anonymous said...

"Anonymous said...
Since when have muslims donated to charity? Doesn't the Koran forbid it? Muslims and Christians are different idiot Cameron!
11 July 2013 15:45"

What on Earth is wrong with you? Read it yourself you sheep, Islam is more than media say it is. I'm not defending it for everything but your comment is plain ridiculous. You have no idea what you're talking about.

Anonymous said...

By you serving in the armed forces gives you some sort of credibility does it? You carried that very hatred into 'war' and you carried it right back to the UK.

Anonymous said...

Are you stupid? You clearly are with a comment like that. Stop taking benefits and work for a living and start giving charity because you probably believe the world owes you one but forget you are as common as leaf on the tree. I bet you wouldn't give charity to your own family if you could so stop being so ignorant and self consuming you piece of turd and do something with your life instead of hating without any reason.



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