Thursday, 30 May 2013

This is an article from our Dutch correspondent. It is translated from the Christian newspaper 'Trouw'. Below it is an article on the same topic from the Irish Times.
The district of the Hague called ‘Schilderswijk’* is developing into an enclave of orthodox Muslims. There are together more orthodox Muslims than elsewhere in the city and they want to apply their rules on the street.

Non-Muslims residents and moderate Muslims have steadily growing problems. They say that on the street they are held accountable for things the fundamentalist majority does not like, such as smoking and the use of alcohol and pork on the street.

“Trouw” (daily Christian paper) had in the past two months regularly visited the area called “The tip of the Forgotten Triangle” (The neighborhood is named so because it was, in the past, 'forgotten' during the time of urban renewal). Most houses are old and have central porches, where it is estimated 5,000 inhabitants live. Nearby are three mosques that are known as Salafist.

“The tip of the triangle” is now called "The Sharia Triangle” or even “The point of the Sword” according to interviews with dozens of residents, former residents, young people, volunteers and professionals from government and civil society organizations. For years they have seen the development of a 'small kalifaatje' and the introduction of a 'mini-Sharia'.

There are known examples of police officers on duty who had reported from the neighborhood that they were ordered to leave. Reason: ‘the residents are able to solve problems by themselves’. Luckily , say people living in the neighborhood, the agents did not leave; but they fear the day that this will truly happen.

Young girls are addressed by veiled women, who show their disapproval about 'skirts above the knee" and "dresses with spaghetti straps”. A veiled Muslim woman reacts: "Women in the deepest core of the Dutch ‘bible belt’ still wear long skirts and nobody is working on Sunday in Staphorst . The majority states. That's what the so-called democracy in the Netherlands is built on. But ‘Oh woe’ if somewhere or another foreign group is becoming the majority,” she concludes.

Crime has recently dropped down in ‘The Triangle’ due to youth gangs being tackled by the police. But nearby it is been said that the "fear of the wrath of Allah” also plays a part. The influence of the strict believers would play an important role in security in the area, because even hardened street boys bow their heads for the "true believers".

The Hague municipality was asked yesterday morning for a response. But could not give, in the short term, a 'careful and substantive response to this complex issue".

*Schilderwijk translated: district of the painters. Is so named as all streets are named after famous Dutch and Flamish painters like Rubens, Rembrandt etc. Was originally built to house poor and lower middle class Dutch between approx. 1860 to approx. the 1930s (the market area). From mid 1970s it gradually became an immigrant neighbourhood.
Source: Trouw

There have been calls for an urgent debate in the Dutch parliament about the integration of Muslim immigrants amid claims that one area of The Hague, known locally as “the Sharia triangle”, is being run by a form of unofficial Sharia police.

The claims relate to the district of Schilderswijk, about two kilometres from the city centre, where an almost entirely Muslim population of some 5,000 people surrounds the El Islam mosque, fuelling criticism that the government has failed to ensure a proper ethnic mix in schools and local housing. One recent investigation, in which local people were extensively interviewed, concluded that Schilderswijk had become “orthodox Muslim territory” which was now largely ignored by the city authorities, by politicians and even by the police, on the grounds that it had become self-regulating.

The investigation found that orthodox Muslims had become so dominant that they were dictating what people in the neighbourhood wore and how they behaved.
“The norms of the majority are beginning to take over,” it said.

In the case of women, dress was a particular issue. One woman told how her daughter had been approached and told her short skirt was inappropriate, while her son had been called a “kaffir” – a racist term formerly used in colonial South Africa to refer to a black person – for smoking.

A youth who had previously been involved in local gangs said that criminality had dropped off, not because of the police, but because he and his friends were “afraid of the wrath of Allah”.

Another man said he felt he was gradually being driven out of his home because he had a dog, and many traditional Muslims tended not to keep or favour dogs.

A veiled Muslim woman, however, defended Islamic practices, and said dressing modestly would “do the locals good”. She pointed out that women in the Dutch ultra-conservative, largely Protestant, Bible Belt also wore long dresses, and that shops there were closed on Sunday – as many in Schilderswijk were on Fridays.

Local police chief Michel de Roos said: “We have no indications there is a form of Sharia police here. That is not to say it does not happen, but we are unaware of it.”
Last Tuesday, social affairs minister Lodewijk Asscher and right-wing Freedom Party leader Geert Wilders paid separate visits to the area, and are to report to parliament.
Source: Irish Times


Anonymous said...

From today's Telegraph:

"Murder of April Jones 'proves porn link to sexual assaults'"

If that's the case then the Woolwich murder (not to mention the thousands of other atrocities committed by folk in the name of islam) proves Islam is not a religion of peace.


But no, just more intellectual dishonesty from the fine folk in the MSM.

We should have a forum on this site, it'd make for some interesting reading!

Maria José said...

Hidden Pattern? Muslim element in gang rape cases ignored by UK govt

To the UK now, where one of the alleged machete killers, who hacked a British soldier to death on a London street, has been officially charged with murder. The gruesome killing has added to the anti-Muslim and anti-immigrant sentiments in the country.

And authorities are now increasingly under fire for downplaying the race and religion factor in crimes, the notorious Oxford sex grooming ring case being one of the most recent examples.

RT talked to Andrew Norfolk, chief investigative reporter with the Times of London.

Anonymous said...

If you havent read this article please do so - and reflect upon its contents

Anonymous said...

The war is now moving to a different phase. Part of this war is to sow doubt in the hearts and minds of the Islamic community in the West. And a subset of this policy is not to antagonize the Muslim community. If postings on the internet or demonstrating in front of a mosque jeopardize this policy, the authorities in the West, all of them, will act. There is no doubt in my mind that this is an agreed policy throughout the West.

There already are prosecutions for posting on Twitter or Facebook, what is deemed offensive. The time is coming soon when counter-Jihad blogs will be under pressure as well. What is likely to happen is that ISPs will be pressured in various ways, tax is one, to remove the blog. I don't wish to see counter-Jihad blogs shut down.

So how is one to approach the situation. I believe one can do this. Let us look at the situation at this moment in time.

There is no doubt that Muslims in the West are under enormous pressure due the reactions after the Boston bombings, and the slaughter of drummer Lee Rigby. The war, as far as direct military actions are concerned, is coming to an end. What the West is now after is total victory. And that means to encourage Muslims to leave Islam, and/or discredit the ethos of Islam

What worries me is that the outspoken words of a few Westerners will lead to

1. Violent acts that will not just incite a cycle of counter acts of violence in the West, as well as against Christians in Islamic countries, but will cause the Muslim community to unite under the "Us" vs "Them" flags. It will happen here and in the Islamic world. The Islamic world, which has been divided as the "War on Terror" progressed, will also unite. Opportunity lost.

2. What is happening in the Islamic word is an "eye for an eye" acts of revenge bombings and killings. It is such an ethos that totally destroy a nation or civilisation.

Islamic radicals in the West know that there is no way they can defeat us militarily. There is only one thing radical Islamists can do, and that is to start a civil war in the West. If they can do this, they will have achieved, with just a few bombs and a series of select barbaric assassinations, a civil war in the West. They would have their revenge in spades.

3. To win a civil war, as history has consistently shown, requires mass deportations and "ethnic" cleansing. Again this will not achieve total victory, but simply divide the world for centuries.

We must not fall for this ploy. Gone will also be the opportunity to win the peace. If we start to behave like Muslims, Muslims will view the ethos of the West as no different from their own. So why should they leave Islam?

That is why I believe that the authorities all over the West, are doing the right thing- giving special protection to individuals such as Anjem Chaudary, mosques and Islamic institutions. The recipients are themselves are not the object though they benefit, but ordinary Muslims who are watching events on the side.

What we have to do in the counter-Jihad movement is to assist the general Western policy. This can be done without in anyway compromising the truth. It can be done with kindness to the Muslim community under pressure in the West, as well as compassion for the hundreds of innocent Muslims dying each day because of the cycle of violence that is intrinsic to the ethos of Islam.


Cheradenine Zakalwe said...

Who cares what Muslims think?

As I said before in my post Pick your problem"

we can pick one of two problems to solve:
1) The problem of Islam
2) The problem of Islam in Europe

The second is much easier to solve than the first. It would be a fatal mistake for Europe to become obsessed with solving the first problem instead of the second.

Anonymous said...

To DP111: Do you seriously, in your heart and soul as a Christian, consider the gang-rapes of thousand of English children and girls (Hindu and Sikh as well as Christian), the slaughter or thousands of Christians in the West (and the once predominantly Christian Middle East and North Africa), the destruction of our Western Christian Civilisation and its foundational liberties/laws/values/culture --- do you consider all this to be worth surrendering and ignoring, in favour of possibly saving Moslems from the evil which is Islam? I understand what you are arguing for, that Christian mercy and charity will assist in defanging Islam and exposing its insane, violent core to its own 'believers'. But I will put to you another argument: Given the totalitarian nature of Islam, and its inbuilt systems for enforcing compliance within the 'umma' (Moslem community), do you not realise that, if we continue to allow more Moslems to enter Europe, and also to continue with the welfare/benefit/immigration/political devices which encourage their demography, that, as their numbers increase, so too will the Islamic ability to restrict their members' movements and thought processes increase, while at the same time non-Moslems are further cowed or encouraged to convert to Islam. No sane Western person welcomes war, but the history of the West is also the history of peoples who have fought, and died, to preserve their freedoms and, if necessary, to die rather than to live as slaves.

If you actually believe that the West cannot and should not resist and win, then I can only say to you that, when the Fall is all there is, it matters how a man goes down.

DIREITA said...

The culture of non-white immigrants in Europe is IRRELEVANT. That's like saying we should be worried about the high body count of a country we are at war with. Chinese who want to speak Chinese or be the dominate demographic need to live in China. Simple.
As I mentioned earlier, unless they are WHITE, they will never be European. Therefore it does not matter what language they speak or which culture they assimilate to because it will not make the least bit of difference

Anonymous said...

CZ and Anon

One needs to consider a strategy that frees us from the Scourge of Islam, as well as achieves victory. This strategy has to be a good one that actually succeeds.

The Islam problem in the West has bothered me for decades. Policies such as repatriation or mass deportation are wishful thinking. They will never happen until a whole series of events have taken place, such as a civil war. A civil war would be a disaster on the scale of what is happening in Islamic countries right now. Our whole society/civilisation would be devastated. Besides we would have become like Muslims.

The West is not defensive when defending its culture and civilisation. We will carry the war into the heart of the enemy territory. Offence in defence is always the best policy. The question is how to do it without loosing the peace.


Anonymous said...

Anon wrote: To DP111: Do you seriously, in your heart and soul as a Christian, consider the gang-rapes of thousand of English children and girls (Hindu and Sikh as well as Christian), the slaughter or thousands of Christians in the West (and the once predominantly Christian Middle East and North Africa), the destruction of our Western Christian Civilisation and its foundational liberties/laws/values/culture --- do you consider all this to be worth surrendering and ignoring, in favour of possibly saving Moslems from the evil which is Islam?

No of course not. Over ten years ago I was writing at LGF, Fjordmn's blog, GoV and Jihad Watch, of the deliberate rapes of young white girls in the UK and Sweden.

How does one remove the threat of Islam - mass deportations and repatriation are some policies favoured by many on blogs. But such policies will discredit our own ethos - it would be tantamount to admitting defeat.

However, if that is the only policy that is available, then it has to be vry clearly shown to our own public, that every measure of tolerance, kindness and even love, has been tried and failed.

The Christian faith is a highly differentiated faith.


Anonymous said...

The only good muslim is a dead one.

Anonymous said...

The best way to destroy Islam - and it needs to be destroyed - would be to educate its women. As much as a physical war might be satisfying, it would only make martyrs of them.

That's why those arseholes in Pakistan shot that young girl in the head for reading a book; Islam needs to keep its womenfolk ignorant, uneducated, and submissive. If they wake up and see that there are alternatives, better lives to be had...they'd leave in droves, and the whole religion, based on male supremacy, would collapse.

How to do this? I don't know. I just know education is the key. As someone whose work I once read put it, "They are not afraid of death; they are not afraid of bullets or bombs....they are afraid of a girl with a book".

Anonymous said...

The worst part is that Dutch media denies this completely and show us a picture perfect view, how great these pigs are and peace loving etc. it makes me sick to my stomach. Can't wait to elections begin again and Geert Wilders can take over!

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