Monday, 11 February 2013

This is quite devastating, I have to say. I wasn't sure about Firasat before, but this article makes me think that it's time for the Counterjihad movement to start disinvesting in this guy.

I should also say that I was in email correspondence with Firasat, correspondence which ceased abruptly when I asked him the name of the restaurant where he had worked in Cordoba. I was just casually curious about this, because I go to a lot of restaurants here (Cordoba), and wondered if it had been one I knew. He had been in some kind of dispute with the restaurant owners here, too, though, so perhaps he thought I wanted to make inquiries about his past.

This was published on 24 February 2008
They took flight leaving a trail of victims and debts behind. Imran Firasat and Jenny Setiawan, political refugees in Cantabria who need to answer before a court in relation to the case filed by their business partners from Santander, have abandoned the flat they were living in and also the city. And the lawyer for the accusers has now asked the judge for a search and capture order covering all the national territory. For the many Cantabrians who threw themselves into helping them because of their hard personal history, the Pakistani and the Indonesian must have been a great disappointment.

Firasat and Setiawan succeeded in gaining temporary authorisation to reside in Cantabria in view of their exceptional circumstances: marriage between a Muslim and a Buddhist is punished by both religions, which prevented them from returning to either of their countries of origin. Having arrived in this region from Germany, Firasat moved like a fish in water between institutions and communication media. He even organised an internet campaign to support his cause.

Having achieved their goal of regularising their stateless situation, the pair opened a catering business in the Grupo Amaro in Santander, called 'Kebabish'. Under this name they formed a company with two Cantabrian couples who quarrelled with them in relation to business-related crimes approximately one month ago: after opening three premises (the Grupo Amaro one, another in Menéndez Pelayo and a third in Marqués de la Hermida), the young man and his wife sold them without the knowledge of their business partners. This gave rise to the complaint for document falsification and administrative fraud.

One of the accusers had also rented a home to them. Because they stopped paying the rent a few months ago, an eviction process has been started.

These were not the only “irregularities” committed by the political refugees. Maite Calderón, owner of a signage company, has also filed a complaint with the police after observing that the Pakistani had given her a cheque without any funds for an amount just below 600 euros. The businesswoman says it is not the money that bothers her (“I don’t expect to get it back”) but the “tremendous disappointment”. “The personal deception hurts me. When he gave me the cheque dated February, he was already preparing his flight”.

Calderón – who had no previous knowledge of the history of the immigrants through the media – is aware that the young man “had a wide circle of people who were supporting him. He offered to make all of them partners in his business. Now it’s clear his only aim was to rip them off”.

She doesn’t think it will be easy to find him. “It would be a stroke of luck”, she notes. A fortune for all those who have been left unpaid, she indicates, “because there were also people, like bar suppliers, that he has left owing”.

The family that support him in his business projects have it worst. A few days ago they learned that they will have to pay the bank the amount they guaranteed for him and they are very upset.

And the local government also have knowledge of the couple, who got a grant to start their business which these sources put at almost 5,000 euros with specific conditions that, if not fulfilled, would mean it had to be returned.

For this reason an investigation has been opened, as has been confirmed by the ex-partners of the Pakistani and the first to accuse him in the situation, who are moving heaven and earth to find him.

These persons add that, among the victims, is a former employee and the compatriot to whom he sold the premises in Menéndez Pelayo. It seems the man who convinced so many people of his painful family situation will have to give many explanations. But for that, he first has to stick his neck out.
Source

Again, H/T to the anonymous commenter who provided links in this thread.

Imran Firasat, if you want to publish a detailed response to these allegations, I am willing to publish it here. You know my email address.

16 comments:

Anonymous said...

well, you have ''bad'' people everywhere. I think the cause here is what counts, not his sloppy acts. He is the only one who will suffer the consequences of his acts.

sheik yer'mami said...

With the trouble he has it might be very difficult to operate a business and pay his bills in a timely manner.

I would give him the benefit of the doubt in this situation. His life is clearly threatened if he is returned to Pakistan. His accusers cannot be trusted and the fact that we have millions of hostile, dangerous Muslims in Europe should encourage us to take care of the likes of him rather than those who came to replace our society with Islam.

Anonymous said...

DP111..
If what is outlined here is true, then I have to call into question everything else about Imran Firasat.

Has he abandoned Islam? Has he become a Christian?

If the second is true, then the fraudulent acts he has committed are not the acts of a convert to Christianity. A convert to Christianity would be blameless in all his actions.

Thus he cannot be a genuine Christian, from which follows, that at heart he is a Muslim.

The state of the war is getting increasingly devious. I expect Muslims to pretend that they are Catholics, Lutherans or even Jews.

Anonymous said...

DP111

His acts are all commensurate with what a Muslim would do. Cheat and swindle Infidels.

Anonymous said...

Illusrated Pig

Firstly these thread is a pleasant surprise, I thought I would be hounded for whistle blowing on Firasat. So A big thank you to the owner of this blog.

Anonymous #1 said…

well, you have ''bad'' people everywhere. I think the cause here is what counts, not his sloppy acts. He is the only one who will suffer the consequences of his acts.

No, I feel for his kids, who he dragged back to Indonesia and left there.

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sheik yer'mami said...
With the trouble he has it might be very difficult to operate a business and pay his bills in a timely manner.

I would give him the benefit of the doubt in this situation. His life is clearly threatened if he is returned to Pakistan. His accusers cannot be trusted and the fact that we have millions of hostile, dangerous Muslims in Europe should encourage us to take care of the likes of him rather than those who came to replace our society with Islam.

At the time when he and he wife started "not paying bills" there was no threat, in fact he went to Indonesia, this just goes to show how much of a threat he was facing.

I have provided a link on the other thread of a court judgement that clearly states that the accuser was Spanish.

One probable reason, he has been cleared of early fraud, is because the Kebab business was in his wifes name. Now it makes sense he is not lobbying for his wife and children to be returned to Spain.

AMDG said...

I was also suspicious about this person. How is he earning his living? Now we have an idea.

And how is it possible that he has won such relevance? I think that he is the puppet of some hidden master.

Anonymous said...

These people are all liars and conmen. He'll be a practising muslim behind all the lies - 100% guaranteed.

Ed Lancey

Anonymous said...

Illustrated PIG

AMDF asks
And how is it possible that he has won such relevance?

He is an old hand at campaigning

http://www.lebenshaus-alb.de/magazin/002658.html#axzz2Kjv6P2tk

More

They got it. Have been months and months of fighting on many fronts..At the same time, he was very grateful to all Cantabrians and Spanish citizens who supported them," there have been many "and especially welcomes Cantabria, who took his case.

http://www.eldiariomontanes.es/pg060420/prensa/noticias/Cantabria/200604/20/DMO-CAN-003.html

We want to make us sympathetic to the case of Imran Firasat and Jenny Setiawan, who are currently experiencing a distressing situation since they are waiting for a response to its request for humanitarian residence entered on August 10, 2005. Otherwise granted such request would separate the family and their lives would be in danger of death. requests the Government to the request and issue a positive resolution of the request for residence on humanitarian grounds. "

http://rinconaufrago.blogspot.com/2006/03/peticin-de-ayuda-urgente-para-un.html

Firasat is newcomer to self promotion.

http://www.hazteoir.org/alerta/peticion-de-ayuda-urgente-para-un-matrimonio-ante-la-pasividad-de-la-administracion-espanola

It would be interesting for Fiasat to respond to these facts, but I doubt It

My first question to him is why, did he not go to the police if he was threatene, but go to Indonesia?

Second question, why did he go to Indonesia? When according to him it would be dangerous.

He should not have been given refugee status, as their was no threat to him in Indonesia, If he had married out side of Indonesia, his marriage would have been accepted.

Had the Spaniards done their homework, the would like the Germans seen the scam Firasat was pulling.

It is impossible for a mixed wedding, but many inter-faith Indonesian couples purposefully get married while they are overseas and return with the marriage a fait accompli ... legal documents and all ... and that is one way out of one of the Indonesian partners having to convert in order to marry.

They flew to Frankfurt from Bangkok. I know several non muslim expats who have married muslim Indonesia women there, then returned, without any problems.

I have a question, why would he wife follow him half way around the world, yet not just say the shahada.

Imran Firasat said...

Dear friends

This is Imran Firasat. Thank you very much for showing so much interest in my life. First of all I have never asked any favour, help or support to the owner of this blog.

The blog runner is simply looking at the 4 years old media coverage and defaming me. Why don´t those newspaper print anything now about me? Have you ever thought about it? Because they were sued by me in the court for defamation and false statements.

I am not surprised by the opposition and defamation which I am facing at this blog. It is nothing new for me. but your negative attitude towards me will not discourage me. I will continue doing what I believe is right.

You dont need to worry whether I will be deported from Spain or not and I have no obligation to provide you any proof or document proving my innocence as you already have made up your mind in a negative way about me.

Stop talking about my wife and my family. By doing so you are putting them in danger.

Only God knows whether I am a true Christian or not. I dont need to clarify it to any human. I dont mind if you want to defame me. but dont depend on what you see 4 years old in internet. What do you think, if I have done so many frauds, will I still be free and not detained? I am free because everything against me have been closed.

Thank you very much and good luck in your fight against Islam. Yours sincerely IMRAN FIRASAT

Imran Firasat said...

Dear friends

This is Imran Firasat. Thank you very much for showing so much interest in my life. First of all I have never asked any favour, help or support to the owner of this blog.

The blog runner is simply looking at the 4 years old media coverage and defaming me. Why don´t those newspaper print anything now about me? Have you ever thought about it? Because they were sued by me in the court for defamation and false statements.

I am not surprised by the opposition and defamation which I am facing at this blog. It is nothing new for me. but your negative attitude towards me will not discourage me. I will continue doing what I believe is right.

You dont need to worry whether I will be deported from Spain or not and I have no obligation to provide you any proof or document proving my innocence as you already have made up your mind in a negative way about me.

Stop talking about my wife and my family. By doing so you are putting them in danger.

Only God knows whether I am a true Christian or not. I dont need to clarify it to any human. I dont mind if you want to defame me. but dont depend on what you see 4 years old in internet. What do you think, if I have done so many frauds, will I still be free and not detained? I am free because everything against me have been closed.

Thank you very much and good luck in your fight against Islam. Yours sincerely IMRAN FIRASAT

Cheradenine Zakalwe said...

I am not defaming you. These are simply translations of articles that have appeared previously. People around the world involved in the struggle against Islam are now investing time and effort in your cause, Imran. I myself posted an article about the German Defence League protesting on your behalf in Berlin a few days ago.

It's important for these people to know whether you are an honest man whose cause is worth taking up. As I made clear in something I posted before, El Mundo recently said quite clearly and unambiguously that you had committed crimes. So if El Mundo is lying, you could certainly sue it for defamation.

You say you have successfully sued several publications for publishing falsehoods about you. Could you provide a list of these cases, including the publication concerned, what it (falsely) said about you, the amount you won in damages, the date of the case and the case reference number. It should be possible to validate the existence of these legal judgements on the internet, to re-assure people that what you are saying is true.

I still haven't made up my mind definitively, although I am inclining towards scepticism about you now, and your response here certainly does nothing to change that. It follows the standard Islamic pattern of attempting to close down speech you don't agree with, demanding it be suppressed and insinuating that the person making it has some malign motivation.

There is no reason why I would want to persecute you. If anything, the opposite is the case. But the truth matters.

Anonymous said...

Illustated PIG

MR Firasat, the owner of this blog has not attacked you here He only asked a simple question, do you have a shady past.

Well for your information I have been living in Java since 1993, and have personally witnessed the anti ChInese riots also I do business with enthnic Chinese.

I have been Blogging since 2003 and my Blog was named The Illustrated PIG to Islam. This can be verified by many within the CJM, Shiek Jer' mami, Ibloga, and Avid Editor, also FaithFreedom INdonesia/international.

There rhythm or reason for an Ethnic Chinese Buddhist to go to one of the most unfriendliest places on this planet for Buddhists. Especially when fleeing for Islamic violence in Indonesia.

Mr Firasat, your story about your wife being Buddhist and you met her in a mall in Lahore, is extremely difficult to believe. The Chinese that fled the riots went to Singapore, Australia and USA. Some went back to Hong kong and mainland China.

Now a simple question, you claim to be threaten by muslims, but instead of reporting to the police you go to Indonesia, Why?

Can you explain why all the Kebab bussiness papers where signed in your wifes name, Is it because if your dishonest y was exposed you would slip under and your wife take the wrap. I can give links to back this up.

And please do not be hypocritical about your wife.

According to you, you spoke out against islam in Indonesia, even though your wife told you to keep quite, and the you tell us take we are putting your family in danger.

It is you that has put them in danger by taking them to Indonesia, and not keeping you mouth shut.

For many people who do not know how thing work here in Indonesia, it is impossible to see you are not telling the truth.

You claim to have published books, that Mr Firasat, is a blatant lie, no publisher would take the risk here in Indonesia.

As Mr Cheradenine Zakalwe said "But the truth matters."

Anonymous said...

Illustrate PIG

Here is the list of the Publications that Firasat accuses of smearing

http://www.eldiariomontanes.es/pg060405/prensa/noticias/Cantabria/200604/05/DMO-REG-025.html

http://www.eldiariomontanes.es/pg060420/prensa/noticias/Cantabria/200604/20/DMO-CAN-003.html

http://www.eldiariomontanes.es/prensa/20070611/cantabria/nuevo-combate-refugiado-politico_20070611.html

http://www.eldiariomontanes.es/20080224/cantabria/firasat-levanta-vuelo-20080224.html

http://www.eldiariomontanes.es/20080224/cantabria/firasat-levanta-vuelo-20080224.html

http://www.eldiariomontanes.es/20080519/opinion/cartas-director/mochila-imran-firasat-jenny-20080519.html

They are still standing, which indicates that Firasat never sued them.



Anonymous said...

Illustrated PIG

Thankyou, Mr Cheradenine Zakalwe, for allowing my posts remain and for also reading them.

I am very surprised, because most other counter jihad sites would not shown them or/and I would have been flamed.

Unfortunatly too many in the counter jihad just repeat what everybody else says, without doing their own research. As in this case, every-one wants Firasat to be the good guy, they do not take the effort to check out to see if he is what he keeps telling us.

There is the old saying innocent until proven guilty, well just now Spain is facing some very serious charges, so is Indonesia.

There are records to show that Firasat/Setiawan did leave Spain with enough cash to open up a franchise of eight kebab restaurants, as it is very unlikely some-one in Indonesia will give it to him.

There is no record that Firasat blogged or published counter jihad material. Also it seem very strange that if he did that just Firasat should be caught. There was quite a few excellent blogs that where running when Firasat was in Indo, and are still running today. Isn't it odd that the police find Firasat, but cannot find all the other counter jihad bloggers, isn't it odd that Firasat can buy of the police and islamist.

What is a fact, is a Christian, Viktor Rizki Wibowo was murdered, and his Mistress has been sentenced to prison.

His wife Jenny was also sentenced for forging different papers, so this brings up the question about all the other documents that Firasat has published on the net.

Firasat claims the Spanish courts cleared him of the charges against him, where is the documentation.

Can Firasat prove that the present revocation has nothing to do with Indonesia.

Where is the documentation, to back up his claims against Spain, because up until now we have only Firasats word, for what it is worth

I would like to add, interesting to note that Indonesia is seeking justice for the the murdered christian

sheik yer'mami said...

The truth matters, indeed.

Firasat needs to come clean. From what I see here, it doesn't look as if he is ....clean at all.

Anonymous said...

Yes Sheik truth does matter

Firasat and most counter jihader refer to Alerta Digital.

If we remember righty it was Alert Digital that where amongst the first to break the news That Firasat wants to burn the Koran in Spain

Then they are the first to break Firasats calls for ban on Quran.

So much for Alerta Digital and truth

Have a look at the Image in this article

In the former Dutch colony of Indonesia, a Muslim man is shown trampling the child of Christian parents.

http://www.alertadigital.com/2012/03/12/el-director-de-una-mezquita-en-holanda-dice-a-unos-alumnos-que-los-ninos-no-musulmanes-son-perros-y-las-autoridades-holandesas-lo-consideran-un-desafortunado-lapsus/

What is tragic, this foto appears all over the net,

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-ky_fACzI_ZQ/T2BhjxdbKhI/AAAAAAAAAxQ/LnIMOWB6SUs/s1600/pam+geller_+fitna29801768638.png

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-aWgw8frXJT4/T2BgDMtUxvI/AAAAAAAAAws/pqiYTOLOAZU/s1600/bni_fitna3697895768090849.png

The foto is in fact

"A bizarre holy man has been arrested on child torture charges after horrified parents found him stamping on their youngsters' throats to cure them of colds. Self-proclaimed demi-god Jamun Yadav, 50, told police his holy Hindu powers allowed him to transfer divine energy from the soles of his feet. He said the amazing feets of magic allowed him to fight all illnesses in Katihar, eastern India. "This is scandalous and we have arrested him. The parents didn't know just what his treatment involved when they agreed to it," said police spokesman Santosh Singh. "He claims he needs no defence in court because he speaks for God. So it should be an interesting trial," he added."

So my conclusion is the Alerta Digital is not a very reliable source


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